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October 5, 2014 - Apostasy

SIGNS OF APOSTASY FORMING? CHURCH DOCTRINE, TEACHINGS AND TRADITION UNDER ATTACK?

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Dear Holy Catholic Priests,

Apostasy has been foretold in Holy Scripture. But what is the apostasy about? We see in Thessalonians that before Christ will return that the apostasy must first take place along with the fact that the man of lawlessness must be revealed. So what will transpire during that apostasy?

 

Will the apostasy be a bunch of bad rogue Priests, Cardinals and Bishops leaving the Holy Church? Or rather is the apostasy as simple as those in charge of the Church making changes to Church Doctrine and Church teachings which will result in pushing out those who are faithful to Jesus Christ and the Holy Eucharist?

 

"Casey, assuredly that would never happen."

 

Not only is it happening, but I point Holy Priests to Daniel 12 as the truth is never complicated but rather very simple.

 

In Daniel 12 we see that the Daily Sacrifice of the Holy Mass will be abolished and that is not in some Buddhist temple somewhere that Daniel is talking about. That prophecy relates to the Catholic Church in end times and it is the Word of God so it will come true and it can happen at any time God so chooses. So it is a fact that there will come a time where the Daily Sacrifice of the Holy Mass is CHANGED and it will be at that time abolished in the eyes of God in the Church. Therefore when those changes are made to the consecration of the Holy Eucharist, one can already see that would create a great apostasy in the Catholic Church as those faithful Holy Priests true to Jesus Christ will not obey the Church's deviation of the Holy Eucharist. Rather instead they will recognize that the Church has gone into serious error by making such changes to the Holy Mass and the Holy Sacraments. So, how far off in the future are these changes to the Holy Mass? Or are they already on our doorstep even now?

 

Assuredly, any pope who makes changes to the Daily Sacrifice is not to be obeyed, is that not correct? Is any pope above Jesus Christ? I absolutely believe in obedience to the pope, but that is contingent upon that pope remaining loyal to the teachings of Jesus Christ, is it not? We will return back to this article later on, but I highly recommend reading this article The Right and Duty to Resist a Pope (Article). We should never be searching for reasons to be disobedient to a pope, but rather we should all be very aware that the pope is human, all humans except Mary and Jesus are not free from sin or error and in that light, we must recognize that our true obedience always remains at the foot of the Cross, at the foot of Jesus Christ Himself.

 

So let me ask this question in all seriousness... Is Francis about "change" or "Tradition"?

 

Is not "Tradition" one of the pillars of the Catholic Church?

 

The focus of this website is not to critique Francis. The true focus here is on the Holy Eucharist and recognizing that change and Tradition do not mix. It is a fact that the apostasy will happen in the Church (which God can permit at any time) and it is a fact that there will be Priests who accept the changes and there will be Priests who will not accept these changes but will instead remain true to Jesus Christ and the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist.

 

So as Roman Catholics, we need to recognize that we have had popes in the past make bad decisions and the one spoken of in Daniel in the future will indeed make changes to the consecration of the Holy Eucharist. Therefore any pope that makes changes to the Holy Eucharist cannot be OBEYED as carrying out such an order will assuredly starve God's sheep, will it not? Do not the sheep need to continue to be fed while the Church goes through the 1290 days without the Daily Sacrifice as Daniel has prophesied? Assuredly when the Church lives out that prophecy, good Holy Priests like yourselves will find themselves in direct violation of Church orders at that time; not because they seek that out but rather because they recognize their obligations to Jesus Christ and His teachings. Have you ever thought about how you would continue to feed the sheep during that time? That is a very serious question that all Priests should ask themselves, is it not? True to the Church that abolishes the Daily Sacrifice or true to the Holy Eucharist? Which side of the fence will you be on?

 

So it is the focus of this website here to help open the eyes of Holy Priests to the fact that these changes are coming true even now and to remind them that they must continue to feed God's sheep as Jesus Himself has instructed His Holy Priests to do.

 

So two questions...

 

1. If the Church tomorrow were to make changes to the consecration of the Holy Eucharist, will you follow the Church into grave error, or will you maintain the consecration of the Holy Eucharist as Jesus and Apostles have laid down, even if it means that it is in direct violation of an order from the Church?

 

2. Daniel 12 warns us that the Daily Sacrifice will be abolished in the Church for 1290 days, so will you defy the Church during that time and uphold the Holy Eucharist or will you defy Jesus Christ by accepting changes to the Holy Mass that tamper with the Holy Eucharist?

 

As we begin to reflect upon these questions we begin to see that the apostasy does not come about as a result of upholding Church Tradition but rather comes about as a result of the Church making changes to the consecration that no man has authority to do. Who is the harlot in Revelation 17? Is it not the Church who will abolish the Daily Sacrifice? A pope only has authority if he upholds the teachings of Jesus Christ. So if he makes changes to such teachings, then no Priest can obey such changes as to do so will be in direct defiance of the instructions laid down by Jesus Christ. When a pope deviates, Priests are left with the choice of either defying the pope or defying Jesus Christ.

 

The teachings of Jesus Christ do not change and the Church does not have the authority to make any changes to what Jesus Christ has laid down. Period.

 

So in light of this refection, we need to ask ourselves if there are signs taking place right now that Francis intends to make changes to the Holy Mass and if that is possible, then we must remain alert at this time and resolved to defend the Holy Eucharist. When the consecration of the Holy Eucharist is changed, if we do not stand up and fight for the Holy Eucharist, then sheep will starve and each of us who watches it happen and does not rise up in defence of the Holy Eucharist will be accountable to Jesus Christ for the sheep that starve as a result of it. As hard as that pill is to swallow, it is the truth. As you will see below, my focus is not on disrespecting a pope, but rather there are signs even now of this apostasy forming and very shortly the good Holy Priests will be removed from the Catholic Church for disobedience to a pope who goes into error. Just as there are signs that we are seeing of prophesies being fulfilled which we saw on the SIGNS page of this website, we are also seeing signs of this apostasy starting to take shape in the Catholic Church.

 

There is a difference between trying to paint a picture that tarnishes a pope and raising up red flags that beg the question of whether or not our Holy Eucharist is in danger of being abolished. I personally do not have time to be painting pictures of others and critiquing them, nor is that what Christ calls us to do. However, as a Roman Catholic I do have the duty to uphold the sanctity of the Holy Eucharist and if I see that it appears to be in danger of sacrilege then I will be held accountable to Jesus Christ if I do not raise awareness of such a threat to the Holy Eucharist. For example, if I had a friend that I knew was going to Mass this weekend with the intent to take home a Holy Host, would it not be my duty to inform the Priest of such a threat? Absolutely. Therefore I will present to you what I believe are valid red flags to the apostasy forming in the Church and the current threat to the Daily Sacrifice being abolished and raise them before you as questions for you to review.

May the Blood of Jesus Christ be upon all His good Holy Priests right now and may our Mother in Heaven shield each of them with her holy mantle.

Casey

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SIGNS OF APOSTASY FORMING? CHURCH DOCTRINE, TEACHINGS AND TRADITION UNDER ATTACK?

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1."Jesus.. became the sinner" says Francis (Video)

2. "Lies! I Was Cheated" -- Pope Francis' Daring Statement About Mary (Article)

3. "A little bread and wine does no harm": Pope Francis goes against years of Catholic teaching.. (Article)

4. Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics (Article)

5. Pope Francis celebrates a Mass with a chalice made from recycled wood

6. Pope says Catholic Church should not dismiss gay marriage (Article)

7. The Right and Duty to Resist a Pope (Article)

8. If you don't feel in need of God's mercy don't go to Mass, says Pope (Article)

9. Catholic Theologian Writes "Open Letter to Pope Francis" (Video by Dr. Kelly Bowring)

10. NEXT STOP, APOSTASY (Video by Casey)

11. THE PROPHECY OF SAINT FRANCIS OF ASSISI

12. THE PROPHECIES OF BLESSED ANNA-KATARINA EMMERICK (Anne Catherine Emmerich)

13. "IF LAWS DON'T LEAD PEOPLE TO JESUS, THEY ARE OBSOLETE" pope says

14. VATICAN PROPOSES 'STUNNING' SHIFT ON GAYS, LESBIANS

(Working on a few more entries. Check back here for updates)

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CHANGING DOCTRINE, TEACHINGS AND TRADITION.....

 

1. "Jesus.. became the sinner" says Francis

 

June 15, 2013 Saturday: Pope Francis, Daily Mass
Pope: The Christian life proclaims the road to reconcilation with God

(Vatican Radio) Christian life is not a spa therapy "to be at peace until Heaven," but it calls us to go out into the world to proclaim that Jesus "became the sinner" to reconcile men with the Father. These were Pope Francis' words during his homily at Mass Saturday at the Casa Santa Martha.

The Christian life is not staying in a corner to carve a road which takes you into heaven, but it's a dynamic that encourages one to stay "on the road" to proclaim that Christ has reconciled us to God, by becoming sin for us. In his usual profound and direct way, Pope Francis focuses on a passage from the Letter to the Corinthians, from today's liturgy, in which St. Paul very insistent, almost "in a hurry", uses the term "reconciliation"five times.

"What is reconciliation? Taking one from this side, taking another one for that side and uniting them: no, that's part of it but it's not it ... True reconciliation means that God in Christ took on our sins and He became the sinner for us. When we go to confession, for example, it isn't that we say our sin and God forgives us. No, not that! We look for Jesus Christ and say: 'This is your sin, and I will sin again'. And Jesus likes that, because it was his mission: to become the sinner for us, to liberate us. "

It is the beauty and the "scandal" of the redemption brought by Jesus and it is also the "mystery, says Pope Francis, from which Paul draws" zeal "that spurs him to" move forward " telling everyone" something so wonderful "the love of a God" who gave up his Son to death for me. " Yet, explains Pope Francis, there is a risk of "never arriving at this truth" in the moment when "we 'devalue a little the Christian life", reducing it to a list of things to observe and thus losing the ardor, the force of the '"love that is inside" of it:

"But philosophers say that peace is a certain ordered tranquility: everything is tidy and quiet ... That is not the Christian peace! Christian peace is an uneasy peace, not a quiet peace: it is an uneasy peace, which goes on to carry this message of reconciliation. The Christian Peace pushes us to move forward. This is the beginning, the root of apostolic zeal. Apostolic zeal is not to go forward to persuade and make statistics: this year Christians in this country have grown, in this movement ... Statistics are good, they help, but that is not what God wants from us, is to persuade... What the Lord wants from us is to announce this reconciliation, which is his own core message . "


Concluding his homily the Pope recalls the inner anxiety of Paul. Pope Francis underlines that which defines the "pillar" of Christian life, namely, that "Christ became sin for me! And my sins are there in his body, in his soul! This - says the Pope - it's crazy, but it's beautiful, it's true! This is the scandal of the Cross! "

"We ask the Lord to give us this concern to proclaim Jesus, to give us a bit of 'that Christian wisdom that was born from His pierced side of love. Just a little to convince us that the Christian life is not a spa therapy: to be at peace until Heaven ... No, the Christian life is the road in life with this concern of Paul. The love of Christ urges us on, it pushes us on, with this emotion that one feels when one sees that God loves us. We ask this grace. " (http://jesusthrumary.blogspot.com/2013/06/june-15-2013-saturday-pope-francis.html)

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Questions from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. So upon reading the above article, do you agree with the premise presented from Francis that we are to "go out into the world to proclaim that Jesus 'became the sinner'"?

2. Which begs the question, what is a "sinner"? Is not the true definition of "sinner" one who commits sin against God? So how can we label Jesus as the "sinner"? Is that not blasphemy? As you will see in this link below, I believe that fulfills the MDM prophecy from God the Father that "When my Son is deemed to be a sinner know that this is the greatest blasphemy". (http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/god-the-father-when-my-son-is-deemed-to-be-a-sinner-know-that-this-is-the-greatest-blasphemy/)

3. Whereas this article raises a number of questions, I will ask just one more. In the video (from CTV-Vatican) we see that Francis makes a statement saying "We look for Jesus Christ and say: 'This is your sin, and I will sin again'. And Jesus likes that, because it was his mission: to become the SINNER for us, to liberate us." Is this a redefinition of reconciliation? Is not a person supposed to go into the confessional with the intent and resolution to not commit the sin again?

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2. "Lies! I Was Cheated" -- Pope Francis' Daring Statement About Mary (Article)

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(Vatican) In the daily morning sermon at Domus Santae Marthae on the 20 December, Pope Francis portrayed the Blessed Virgin Mary as an icon of silence who bore the mystery of God within her. But the Pope expressed hitherto completely new thoughts on the attitude of Mary on Calvary this past Friday. Is Pope Francis forming Marian theology? Mary not as co-redeemer, but as a rebel? Or an all in one, as the world today likes? The Pope said:


Maria Accused God of Deceit?

"The Gospel tells us nothing: if she said a word or not ... She was quiet, but in her heart - how much she said to the Lord! 'You told me then - that's what we have read - that He will be great. You told me that You would give him the throne of his father David, that he will reign over the house of Jacob forever. And now I see Him there!' The Blessed Mother was human! And perhaps she would have wanted to say, 'lies! I have been cheated!'. John Paul II said this when he spoke of the Mother of God at one point. But she was overshadowed with the silence of the mystery that she did not understand, and with this silence, she has accepted that this mystery can grow and flourish in the hope ".


This passage from the morning sermon by Pope Francis for Holy Mass in the Domus Santa Marta was published by Italian editors of Vatican Radio. The German editors reported this sermon as on every day, but omitted this point, however.
Daring Interpretation of Pope Francis

The daring interpretation that Pope Francis gives to Mary's silence, gives rise spontaneously to two questions.The first question that imposes itself is: In what document or speech is Pope John Paul II to have put such words of the Virgin Mother of God in her mouth?
Some searching and consultation of a colleague proved successful. The passage refers to the Encyclical Redemptoris Mater of the Polish pope about the Blessed Virgin Mary in the life of the Pilgrim Church. But what Pope Francis says his predecessor John Paul II may have said, does not correspond to what John Paul II said. The difference in content and language is astounding. Here are the words of John Paul II in the original:


John Paul II said something else

This blessing reaches its full meaning when Mary stands beneath the Cross of her Son (cf. Jn. 19:25). The Council says that this happened "not without a divine plan": by "suffering deeply with her only-begotten Son and joining herself with her maternal spirit to his sacrifice, lovingly consenting to the immolation of the victim to whom she had given birth," in this way Mary "faithfully preserved her union with her Son even to the Cross." 38 It is a union through faith- the same faith with which she had received the angel's revelation at the Annunciation. At that moment she had also heard the words: "He will be great...and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there will be no end" (Lk. 1:32-33).

And now, standing at the foot of the Cross, Mary is the witness, humanly speaking, of the complete negation of these words. On that wood of the Cross her Son hangs in agony as one condemned. "He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows...he was despised, and we esteemed him not": as one destroyed (cf. Is. 53:3- 5). How great, how heroic then is the obedience of faith shown by Mary in the face of God's "unsearchable judgments"! How completely she "abandons herself to God" without reserve, offering the full assent of the intellect and the will" 39 to him whose "ways are inscrutable" (cf. Rom. 11:33)! And how powerful too is the action of grace in her soul, how all-pervading is the influence of the Holy Spirit and of his light and power!

Through this faith Mary is perfectly united with Christ in his self-emptying. For "Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men": precisely on Golgotha "humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross" (cf. Phil. 2:5-8). At the foot of the Cross Mary shares through faith in the shocking mystery of this self-emptying. This is perhaps the deepest "kenosis" of faith in human history. Through faith the Mother shares in the death of her Son, in his redeeming death; but in contrast with the faith of the disciples who fled, hers was far more enlightened. On Golgotha, Jesus through the Cross definitively confirmed that he was the "sign of contradiction" foretold by Simeon. At the same time, there were also fulfilled on Golgotha the words which Simeon had addressed to Mary: "and a sword will pierce through your own soul also."

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The statements of John Paul II seem to have nothing to do with what Pope Francis attributed to them. The faith of Mary is referred to by John Paul II as "heroic" and "enlightened" in comparison to that of the disciples. In the encyclical, there is not the slightest indication of any possible doubt on the part of the Virgin Mother of God.

Upon What Did Pope Francis Base his Statement?

The second question, however, relates to the wider context of revelation and theology: upon which theological arguments does Pope Francis base his pronouncing a very, let us say with the utmost restraint, "impetuous" judgment of the Blessed All Holy Virgin Mary? We sincerely have no idea.


If they were really spoken or thought by the Mother of God, they would be called blasphemous. But the doubts and the questions that Pope Francis puts in Mary's mouth, have no equivalent in Revelation, even less in the tradition of the Church or in the Fathers. Where do they come but then? They do not correspond either to the Scriptures or the Church's teaching, but solely the thought Jorge Mario Bergoglio. Thoughts that the new pope had already repeatedly hinted at or has expressed directly. It is Bergoglio's conviction that the faith in order to be "authentic" must implicitly include doubt.

The Confession of Doubt

The "personal creed" written by him at the age of almost 33, shortly before his ordination (see separate report , The "Personal Commitment" of Pope Francis Before his Ordination 44 years Ago ) brings two concets in connection with the belief this connection between authenticity and the doubts expressed. The note with this "credo" of 1969 might be stuck in Bergolio's private folder, but it is hidden to the world. However, the current Pope revealed it several times to others and even said a few years ago that he would sign it as much today as then. Along with several statements since the beginning of his pontificate, there is another dimension.

In an interview with the Jesuit journal La Civita Cattolica of 19 September the Pope said:


"The risk in seeking and finding God in all things, then, is the willingness to explain too much, to say with human certainty and arrogance: 'God is here.' We will find only a god that fits our measure. The correct attitude is that of St Augustine: seek God to find him, and find God to keep searching for God forever. Often we seek as if we were blind, as one often reads in the Bible. And this is the experience of the great fathers of the faith, who are our models. We have to re-read the Letter to the Hebrews, Chapter 11. Abraham leaves his home without knowing where he was going, by faith. All of our ancestors in the faith died seeing the good that was promised, but from a distance.... Our life is not given to us like an opera libretto, in which all is written down; but it means going, walking, doing, searching, seeing.... We must enter into the adventure of the quest for meeting God; we must let God search and encounter us.
The German translation follows almost without deviation in the Jesuit journal, Stimmen der Zeit. The Pope also spoke at the general audience on 30 October that he himself has had doubt:


"Who of us - all all! - Who of us has not experienced uncertainty, confusion and even doubt on a journey of faith? All! We've all experienced this: I also. Everybody. It is part of the journey of faith, it is part of our lives. All this ought not surprise us, because we are humans, marked by weaknesses and limitations. Do not be alarmed. We all have weaknesses and limitations!"

The Lofty Language of the Church's tradition to Mary

In what context are these generalizations that are derived from personal experience. which may be quite correct, have to do with what divine revelation, the Scriptures and the Church's teaching say about Mary Mother of God? The Most Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, the Immaculate Conception, the sinless, Virgin without stain. But how do doubt and outright rebellion against God belong to Mary, of Whom is the sung the most sublime and oldest hymns like the Magnificat, like the Bavarian and Austrian manner of eloquent folk variation dating in its origins from the early Christian prayer, Tota pulchra es Maria :

Thou art all-lovely, O Mary,
and in thee there is no stain of original sin.
Thou art the glory of Jerusalem,
Thou art the joy of Israel,
Thou art the honour of thy people.
Thou art the advocate of sinners

(http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2013/12/lies-i-was-cheated-pope-francis-daring.html)

 

Questions from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. So the article starts out by stating that Francis' sermon expressed a "completely new thoughts on the attitude of Mary" which I would have to agree with. My question to the Holy Priests out there is who of you agrees that Mary would have thought at the foot of the cross 'lies! I have been cheated!'? If you heard one of your parishioners make such a statement to others at Church after Mass on Sunday, would you correct them?

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3. "A little bread and wine does no harm": Pope Francis goes against years of Catholic teaching.. (Article)

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A little bread and wine 'does no harm,' Pope Francis said to a divorced woman as he flew in the face of Catholic convention by telling her it's okay to take communion.


Catholic teachings traditionally forbid divorcees from the Eucharist, so the divorcee had written to its spiritual leader asking for advice about how she could be part of the ritual.


She had told him she didn't want to do anything that would be wrong in the eyes of the church.
Pope Francis has for some time been looking for a solution to the problem, saying that 'something must be done' to help those that want to.


Last month he told a morning mass in Rome that divorcees should not be condemned but rather 'accompanied'.
Argentinian divorcee Jacquelina Sabetta wrote to Francis last year asking 'what to do, given that to take communion would be violating one of the rules of the church'.


Seven months later she was amazed to receive a phone call from someone who 'presented himself as Father Bergoglio'.
After apologizing for the lateness of his response Francis reportedly said 'It is a question that we are discussing at the Vatican because a divorced person who takes communion is not doing any harm. '


The phone call was initially revealed by the woman's new husband on Facebook. Julio Sabetta said the call to his wife from the Pope was 'the best thing that had happened to him in life, after the birth of his children. '

(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611292/A-little-bread-wine-does-no-harm-Pope-Francis-tells-divorced-woman-OK-communion.html)

Question from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. This website, ice540.com has one purpose. To remain loyal to the Holy Eucharist and to help Priests to continue to feed God's sheep when Francis changes the consecration and abolishes the Daily Sacrifice. That's it. In that light, I believe that this article above reveals something to come. It is important to reflect upon the fact that abolishing the Daily Sacrifice doesn't necessarily mean that the Church has to completely do away with the ritual of consecration. Correct me if I am wrong, but if we had a pope tomorrow say that we can no longer hold people back from receiving Holy Communion so ALL people are welcomed to receive, what would happen? Would God the Father revoke the Transubstantiation that occurs? The article above indicates Francis' position to be one that the divorced woman should be 'accompanied'. So my question to Holy Priests out there is, should all people be 'accompanied' and given Holy Communion? What does the Holy Catholic Church say about this? As we can begin to see, the prophecy of Daniel 12 can be easily fulfilled just by a pope lifting the restrictions that hold back everyone from receiving Holy Communion. Then at that point it would be up to good Holy Priests to recognize that they could not follow such an order and they in turn will look like the bad guys, will they not?

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4. Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics (Article)

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Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists.

During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace.

Using scripture from the Gospel of Mark, Francis explained how upset Jesus' disciples were that someone outside their group was doing good, according to a report from Vatican Radio.

"They complain," the Pope said in his homily, because they say, "If he is not one of us, he cannot do good. If he is not of our party, he cannot do good." And Jesus corrects them: "Do not hinder him, he says, let him do good." The disciples, Pope Francis explains, "were a little intolerant," closed off by the idea of possessing the truth, convinced that "those who do not have the truth, cannot do good."

"This was wrong . . . Jesus broadens the horizon." Pope Francis said, "The root of this possibility of doing good – that we all have – is in creation"

Pope Francis went further in his sermon to say:

"The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. 'But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.' Yes, he can... "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!".. We must meet one another doing good. 'But I don't believe, Father, I am an atheist!' But do good: we will meet one another there."


Responding to the leader of the Roman Catholic church's homily, Father James Martin, S.J. wrote in an email to The Huffington Post:

"Pope Francis is saying, more clearly than ever before, that Christ offered himself as a sacrifice for everyone. That's always been a Christian belief. You can find St. Paul saying in the First Letter to Timothy that Jesus gave himself as a "ransom for all." But rarely do you hear it said by Catholics so forcefully, and with such evident joy. And in this era of religious controversies, it's a timely reminder that God cannot be confined to our narrow categories."


Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don't believe will be redeemed, and the Pope's words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

The pope's comment has also struck a chord on Reddit, where it is the second most-shared piece.

More from Reuters:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions - or no religion - work together.

The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made his comments in the homily of his morning Mass in his residence, a daily event where he speaks without prepared comments.

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

"Even them, everyone," the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. "We all have the duty to do good," he said.

"Just do good and we'll find a meeting point," the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest: "But I don't believe. I'm an atheist."

Francis's reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/pope-francis-good-atheists_n_3320757.html)

Question from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. I have only one question for Holy Priests here. Jesus in John 14:6 states "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

If I'm an atheist in mortal sin and I die in that state and I do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Lord, will I get a second chance?

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5. Pope Francis celebrates a Mass with a chalice made from recycled wood

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Pope Francis celebrates a Mass with a chalice made from recycled wood from broken migrant boats, during his visit to the island of Lampedusa, southern Italy, July 8, 2013. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

Question from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. In regards to the Holy Precious Blood of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is it permissible in the Church to pull garbage out of the recycling can, clean it up really well and then consecrate the Holy Precious Blood of Our Lord in such a container? (This one is somewhat of a no brainer is it not?)

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6. Pope says Catholic Church should not dismiss gay marriage (Article)

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The Catholic Church should not dismiss out of hand civil unions, but should study them, says Pope Francis, in latest softening of stance on thorny social issues.


Pope Francis says the issue of gay marriage should be studied and not dismissed out-of-hand, a senior Roman Catholic cardinal has revealed.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the outspoken archbishop of New York, said Pope Francis had told him: "Rather than quickly condemn them, let's just ask the questions as to why that has appealed to certain people."

Archbishop Dolan stressed that the Pope had not shifted the Catholic Church's position on same-sex unions.

"It wasn't as if he came out and approved them," he told the NBC television network in the US.
But the Pope wanted senior Church leaders to "look into" the issue and to scrutinise the reasons why many countries have legalised same-sex marriages.

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/10688421/Pope-says-Catholic-Church-should-not-dismiss-gay-marriage.html)

Question from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. Is the Catholic Church on the road to accepting same-sex "marriages"?

2. As we will see later on, the gay and lesbian communities are cheering Francis on right now. Why is this? If Francis is resolved on remaining true to Church Teachings, then the boundary needs to be identified, defended and reinforced, does it not? Is Francis reinforcing the sanctity of marriage or blurring the lines by being "open"?

(Sadly we know how this will turn out. It doesn't take a rocket-scientist to see big black storm clouds on the horizon and to recognize them for what they are. If Francis opens the door of "acceptance" to same-sex "marriages", then it will be the good Holy Catholic Priests that will now become the bad guys for defending the definition of marriage within the Church, will they not?)

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7. The Right and Duty to Resist a Pope

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The Right and Duty to Resist a Pope


The Popes, Saints, Fathers, Doctors and approved theologians of the Roman Catholic Church have told us through the ages that a pope can be a heretic against the Roman Catholic faith and attempt to destroy the Church through inappropriate policies.

Such a pope is to be disobeyed and resisted as a matter of duty.

St. Peter's instruction

The first pope St. Peter († 67) gave us the general principle of disobedience to, and resistance of, corrupt hierarchies and their commands when he was forbidden to preach Christ by the apostate Jews. When there is a conflict between the will of a religious superior and God, we are to obey God.

"But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." (Acts 5:29)

The Doctor Saint Thomas Aquinas O.P († 1274) used this incident as an indication that all superiors are to be disobeyed should their commands be against the Will of God.

"It is written: 'We ought to obey God rather than men.' Now sometimes the things commanded by a superior are against God. Therefore, superiors are not to be obeyed in all things." (Summa Theologiae, IIa IIae, Q. 104, A. 5)

The theologian Juan Cardinal De Torquemada O.P. († 1468) expressly related that Bible passage to the duty to resist a wayward pontiff.

"Although it clearly follows from the circumstances that the Pope can err at times, and command things which must not be done, that we are not to be simply obedient to him in all things, that does not show that he must not be obeyed by all when his commands are good. To know in what cases he is to be obeyed and in what not, it is said in the Acts of the Apostles: 'One ought to obey God rather than man'; therefore, were the Pope to command anything against Holy Scripture, or the articles of faith, or the truth of the Sacraments, or the commands of the natural or divine law, he ought not to be obeyed, but in such commands, to be passed over." (Summa de Ecclesia)

So, "superiors are not to be obeyed in all things"; a "pope can err at times, and command things which must not be done" and "we are not to be simply obedient to him in all things." A pope can command "against Holy Scripture, or the articles of faith, or the truth of the Sacraments, or the commands of the natural or divine law" and then "he ought not to be obeyed."

St. Paul's example

Pope St. Peter I himself was publicly resisted to his face by St. Paul because he endangered the truth of the Gospel.

"But when Cephas [Peter] was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed." (Galatians 2:11)

The Fathers of the Church explained that the incident shows us the correctness of resisting wayward ecclesiastics, even popes. The great Scripture commentator Cornelius a Lapide († 1637) wrote as follows:

"Superiors may be admonished by their subordinates in all humility and charity so that truth may be defended: this is the basis (Galatians 2, 11) on which St. Augustine, St. Cyprian, St. Gregory, St. Thomas and many others who are quoted support this opinion. They teach quite unequivocally that St. Peter, although superior in authority to St. Paul, was admonished by him. St. Gregory rightly states that, "Peter remained silent so that, being first in the hierarchy of the Apostles, he might equally be first in humility." St. Augustine writes, "By showing that superiors admit that they may be rebuked by their subordinates, St. Peter gave posterity an example of saintliness more noteworthy than that given by St. Paul, although the latter showed, nonetheless, that it is possible for subordinates to have the boldness to resist their superiors without fear, when in all charity they speak out in the defence of truth."" (Commentary Ad Gal., II, 11.)

So, the Doctor St. Augustine told us that we should "boldly" resist superiors, including the Pope, "without fear", when we are defending the Faith.

St. Thomas Aquinas wrote that the Scripture passage shows that a pope who errs from the Faith must be resisted openly and publicly because of the danger which exists for the Faithful to be corrupted and led into error.

"There being an imminent danger for the Faith, prelates must be questioned, even publicly, by their subjects. Thus, St. Paul, who was a subject of St. Peter, questioned him publicly on account of an imminent danger of scandal in a matter of Faith. And, as the Glossa of St. Augustine puts it (Ad Galatas 2.14), 'St. Peter himself gave the example to those who govern so that if sometimes they stray from the right way, they will not reject a correction as unworthy even if it comes from their subjects." (Summa Theologiae, IIa IIae, Q. 33, A. 4)

He also commented on it as follows:

"The reprehension was just and useful, and the reason for it was not light: there was a danger for the preservation of Gospel truth. […] The way it took place was appropriate, since it was public and manifest. For this reason, St. Paul writes: 'I spoke to Cephas,' that is, Peter, 'before everyone,' since the simulation practiced by St. Peter was fraught with danger to everyone." (Super Epistulas S. Pauli, Ad Galatas, 2, 11-14 (Taurini/ Rome: Marietti, 1953), lec. III, nn. 83f.)

That is how a heretical pope and his errors are to be resisted: "boldly", "without fear", "publicly" and "before everyone", because he is a "danger to everyone". That is the teaching of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church.

The instruction of the popes

Various popes have also told us that popes can err from the Faith and should then be resisted.

Pope Innocent III († 1216) stated that a pope can "wither away into heresy" and "not believe" the Faith.

"The pope should not flatter himself about his power, nor should he rashly glory in his honour and high estate, because the less he is judged by man, the more he is judged by God. Still the less can the Roman Pontiff glory, because he can be judged by men, or rather, can be shown to be already judged, if for example he should wither away into heresy, because "he who does not believe is already judged." (St. John 3:18) In such a case it should be said of him: 'If salt should lose its savour, it is good for nothing but to be cast out and trampled under foot by men.'" (Sermo 4)

Pope Adrian VI († 1523) stated that "it is beyond question" that a pope can "err in matters touching the Faith", he can "teach heresy" in decrees. He also stated "many Roman Pontiffs were heretics".

"If by the Roman Church you mean its head or pontiff, it is beyond question that he can err even in matters touching the faith. He does this when he teaches heresy by his own judgement or decretal. In truth, many Roman pontiffs were heretics. The last of them was Pope John XXII († 1334)." (Quaest. in IV Sent.; quoted in Viollet, Papal Infallibility and the Syllabus, 1908).*

(* According to the 1907 Catholic Encyclopedia, this work was published in 1512 from the notes of his student and without his supervision, but as it saw "many editions" it would appear that the pope did not repudiate the passage as not his own, in a work attributed to him.)

Venerable Pope Pius IX († 1878) recognised the danger that a future pope would be a heretic and "teach contrary to the Catholic Faith", and he instructed, "do not follow him."

"If a future pope teaches anything contrary to the Catholic Faith, do not follow him." (Letter to Bishop Brizen)

Pope Adrian II († 872) admitted that papal heresy "renders lawful the resistance of subordinates to their superiors, and their rejection of the latter's pernicious teachings."

"We read that the Roman Pontiff has always possessed authority to pass judgment on the heads of all the Churches (i.e., the patriarchs and bishops), but nowhere do we read that he has been the subject of judgment by others. It is true that Honorius was posthumously anathematised by the Eastern churches, but it must be borne in mind that he had been accused of heresy, the only offence which renders lawful the resistance of subordinates to their superiors, and their rejection of the latter's pernicious teachings".

However, I must disagree with Pope Adrian when he said that heresy was the only offence that justified resistance: the Saints and Doctors have informed us otherwise, as we shall see.

Further, Pope Honorius I († 638) was not merely "accused of heresy" or "anathematised by the Eastern Churches": he was anathematised as a heretic by the ecumenical Council of III Constantinople, whose Acts were confirmed by Pope Leo II († 683).

"We foresaw that, together with them, also Honorius, before Pope of Old Rome, is cast out of the Holy Catholic Church of God and anathematized, for we have found by his writings sent to [the heretic] Sergius, that he followed the thinking of the latter in everything, and continued his impious principles. [...] To Sergius, the heretic, anathema! To Cyrus, the heretic, anathema! To Honorius, the heretic, anathema!"

So we see that popes have told us that a pope can "wither away into heresy" and "not believe" the Faith; that "it is beyond question" that a pope can "err in matters touching the Faith", he can "teach heresy" in decrees; that "many Roman Pontiffs were heretics"; that a pope may be a heretic and "teach […] contrary to the Catholic Faith", in which case we are to follow the instruction "do not follow him"; and that papal heresy "renders lawful the resistance of subordinates to their superiors, and their rejection of the latter's pernicious teachings."

The teaching of the saints and theologians

The Saints and theologians have told us the same thing through the ages: we must not obey but rather resist wayward pontiffs and their corrupt hierarchies.

The first Doctor of the Church, St. Athanasius († 373), told us that "Catholics faithful to Tradition" can be "reduced to a handful". He wrote during the Arian crisis, when the global episcopacy defected to Arianism and Pope Liberius († 366) went into heresy, signed a heretical Arian creed and invalidly excommunicated St. Athanasius, as did the heretical bishops of the East.

"Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ." (Epistle to the Catholics)

St. Vincent of Lerins († 445) is the Father of the Church most associated with the defence of unchanging doctrinal tradition. It is the subject of his main treatise, the Commonitory. He foresaw that if the whole Church should go into heresy we must keep to the traditional Faith handed down from the Fathers.

"What then should a Catholic do if some portion of the Church detaches itself from communion of the universal Faith? What choice can he make if some new contagion attempts to poison, no longer a small part of the Church, but the whole Church at once? Then his great concern will be to attach himself to antiquity which can no longer be led astray by any lying novelty." (Commonitory)

A general corruption of the hierarchy has been foreseen and has happened before and the Saints have told us how we are to respond: we are to keep to the traditional, true Catholic Faith which has been handed down from the Fathers and to reject the "lying novelties" of the pope and the hierarchy.

The theologian Sylvester Prieras, O.P. († 1523) discussed the resistance of a corrupt pope at some length. He asked, "What should be done in cases where the pope destroys the Church by his evil actions?" and "What should be done if the pope wishes unreasonably to abolish the laws of church or state?" His answer was as follows:

"He would certainly be in sin, and it would be unlawful to allow him to act in such a fashion, and likewise to obey him in matters which are evil; on the contrary, there is a duty to oppose him while administering a courteous rebuke.

"Thus, were he to wish to distribute the Church's wealth, or Peter's Patrimony among his own relatives; were he to wish to destroy the church or to commit an act of similar magnitude, there would be a duty to prevent him, and likewise an obligation to oppose him and resist him. The reason being that he does not possess power in order to destroy, and thus it follows that if he is so doing it is lawful to oppose him."

"It is clear from the preceding that, if the pope by his commands, orders or by his actions is destroying the church, he may be resisted and the fulfilment of his commands prevented. The right of open resistance to prelates' abuse of authority stems also from natural law." (Dialogus de Potestate Papae)

It would be "unlawful to allow him to act in such a fashion", without any resistance, and "likewise to obey him." There is "a duty to prevent him, and likewise an obligation to oppose him and resist him." As he has papal power only to build up the Church and not to destroy it, it is "lawful to oppose him." He is to be "resisted and the fulfilment of his commands prevented." "Open resistance" is a right and a duty.

The theologian Tommaso Cardinal de Vio Gaetani Cajetan O.P. († 1534) declared: "It is imperative to resist a pope who is openly destroying the Church." (De Comparata Auctoritate Papae et Concilio). Such a pope must be resisted, his policies opposed and prevented and true Catholic Faith and practice maintained. Resistance must be established and advanced.

The canonist and theologian, Fr. Francisco de Victoria, O.P. († 1546) told us the same.

"According to natural law, violence may lawfully be opposed by violence. Now, through the acts permitted and the orders of the kind under discussion, the Pope does commit violence, because he is acting contrary to what is lawful. It therefore follows that it is lawful to oppose him publicly. Cajetan draws attention to the fact that this should not be interpreted as meaning that anybody whosoever can judge the Pope, or assume authority over him, but rather that it is lawful to defend oneself even against him. Every person, in fact, has the right to oppose an unjust action in order to prevent, if he is able, its being carried out, and thus he defends himself." (Obras, pp. 486-7)

All of the Faithful have the right to oppose the actions of a corrupt pope and to try to prevent his harmful policies from being carried out. It is "lawful to oppose him publicly."

The theologian, Francisco Suarez S.J. († 1617), said likewise.

"If the pope gives an order contrary to right customs, he should not be obeyed; if he attempts to do something manifestly opposed to justice and the common good, it will be lawful to resist him; if he attacks by force, by force he can be repelled, with a moderation appropriate to a just defence." (De Fide, Disp. X, Sec. VI, N. 16)

The Doctor of the Church, St. Robert Bellarmine, S.J. († 1621), wrote a treatise on the Papacy which was used as a basis for the definition of the limits of papal infallibility which was made at Vatican I. He wrote as follows:

"Just as it is lawful to resist the pope that attacks the body, it is also lawful to resist the one who attacks souls or who disturbs civil order, or, above all, who attempts to destroy the Church. I say that it is lawful to resist him by not doing what he orders and preventing his will from being executed." (De Romano Pontifice, Lib. II, Ch. 29)

A pope "who attempts to destroy the Church" is not to be obeyed but "it is lawful to resist him by not doing what he orders and preventing his will from being executed."

Council Vatican I (1870) defined that a pope has no power or right to come out with new doctrines or to change the Faith which has been handed down from the Apostles but only to maintain and preach it.

"For the Holy Ghost was promised to the successors of Peter not so that they might, by His revelation, make known some new doctrine, but that, by His assistance, they might religiously guard and faithfully expound the revelation or Deposit of Faith transmitted by the Apostles." (Pastor Aeternus, cap. 4)

A pope has the right to do nothing but to maintain the true Catholic Faith, exactly as it has been received. If he attempts to do otherwise, he is to be denounced and opposed along with all the doctrinal innovations he attempts to impose on the Faithful.

Summary and recap of perennial teaching

We have seen that tradition instructs us that the global episcopate can fall away from the Faith and that true Catholics can be reduced to a handful. Popes can defect from the Faith and "teach" heresy in their decrees. They can destroy the Church with their acts. Then we must not obey but must openly resist the pope and the hierarchy and try to stop their policies from being implemented.

To recap:

Pope St. Peter I instructed us that we must obey God rather than men when there is a conflict between the two. The Doctors and theologians of the Church emphasised this by telling us "superiors are not to be obeyed in all things"; a "pope can err at times, and command things which must not be done"; and "we are not to be simply obedient to him in all things." A pope can command "against Holy Scripture, or the articles of faith, or the truth of the Sacraments, or the commands of the natural or divine law", and then "he ought not to be obeyed."

Further, St. Paul publicly resisted Pope St. Peter to his face because he was endangering the Faith. The Fathers and Doctors of the Church emphasised that we should "boldly" resist superiors, including the Pope, "without fear", when we are defending the Faith; a pope who errs from the Faith must be resisted openly and publicly because of the danger which exists for the Faithful to be corrupted and led into error.

Popes have told us that a pope can "wither away into heresy" and "not believe" the Faith; that "it is beyond question" that a pope can "err in matters touching the Faith", he can "teach heresy" in decrees; and that "many Roman Pontiffs were heretics"; that a pope may be a heretic and "teach […] contrary to the Catholic Faith", in which case we are to follow the instruction, "do not follow him"; and that papal heresy "renders lawful the resistance of subordinates to their superiors, and their rejection of the latter's pernicious teachings."

And finally, we have seen that the Saints and approved theologians through the ages have told us that it can happen that "some new contagion attempts to poison, no longer a small part of the Church, but the whole Church at once", and it can come to pass that "Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful". Should this happen the great concern of each "will be to attach himself to antiquity which can no longer be led astray by any lying novelty" – and it is the "Catholics faithful to tradition" who "are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ." Further, a pope can "destroy the Church through his evil actions" and then "it would be unlawful to allow him to act in such a fashion"; "on the contrary, there is a duty to oppose him"; there "would be a duty to prevent him, and likewise an obligation to oppose him and resist him"; "he may be resisted and the fulfilment of his commands prevented" with "open resistance". Again, "it is lawful to oppose him publicly"; "every person, in fact, has the right to oppose an unjust action in order to prevent, if he is able, its being carried out." Indeed, "it is imperative to resist a pope who is openly destroying the Church." He "should not be obeyed" and it is "lawful to resist him" if he acts contrary to justice and the common good. A pope has no right to teach novelty. It is "lawful to resist him by not doing what he orders and preventing his will from being executed" should he destroy the Church.

http://www.romancatholicism.org/duty-resist.html

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8. If you don't feel in need of God's mercy don't go to Mass, says Pope (Article)

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"Pope Francis has said that if you no do feel that you are in need of God's mercy then it is better not to go to Mass."

Speaking at his general audience today, Pope Francis said: "Sometimes someone asks: 'Why bother going to church, the people who always go to Mass are sinners like the others'. If you do not feel in need of God's mercy, if you do not feel you are a sinner, then it's better not go to Mass, because we go to Mass because we are sinners and we want to receive the forgiveness of Jesus, to participate in His redemption, His forgiveness.

"That 'I confess' we say at the beginning is not a 'pro forma', is a true act of penance, 'I am a sinner and I confess'. We have to go to Mass humbly, as sinners, and the Lord reconciles us."

Pope Francis went on to say: "We celebrate the Eucharist not because we are worthy, but because we recognise our need for God's mercy, incarnate in Jesus Christ… I wish to reflect on how we live the Eucharist in our daily lives."

The Pope said that "the Eucharist affects the way we see others. So too the Eucharist brings us together with others – young and old, poor and affluent, neighbours and visitors. The Eucharist calls us to see all of them as our brothers and sisters."

Pope Francis said that with the renewed idea from God's gift presented in the service "our hearts are enlarged to receive and show mercy." (CatholicHerold.co.uk - 2/12/14)

(http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2014/02/12/if-you-dont-feel-in-need-of-gods-mercy-then-dont-go-to-mass-says-pope/)

Question from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. Dear Holy Priests, are we not seeing a trend here? There are many examples we have seen where it appears that Francis is "redefining" the faith and how the Church should operate. The press calls him "bold", "daring", "going against years of Catholic Teaching", "a breath of fresh air"..... So my final question here at this time is, is Francis about Tradition or change?

I do not see how any of the examples above defend, strengthen or support true Catholic Teaching and Doctrine. If anything these examples have not only weakened our position as God's Holy Catholic Church but equally important, have made it harder for good Holy Catholic Priests to uphold and defend the faith.

People can be in denial all they want, but the black storm clouds are on the horizon and Jesus Christ in His infinite Mercy always sends warnings to help His faithful. Will we remain true to Jesus or will we compromise our faith and follow someone who throws good Holy Priests under the bus while "accommodating" the masses? Is there any indication that Francis is helping people out of their sins, or is his message that we should ACCOMODATE each other? Will people not loose their souls if they do not reconcile their sins with Jesus Christ? So why does Francis not reinforce the boundaries in this age where the lines are blurred? Is Church Teaching and Doctrine being reinforced right now or attacked through water-downed philosophy? Is Francis to be hailed as a hero or must we who fight hard for the faith need to remain on alert and watchful?

God bless and protect our Holy Priests in the Blood of the Lamb. ~ Casey

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9. Catholic Theologian Writes "Open Letter to Pope Francis" (Video by Dr. Kelly Bowring)

 

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10. NEXT STOP, APOSTASY (Video by Casey)

 

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11. THE PROPHECY OF SAINT FRANCIS OF ASSISI

Shortly before he died, St. Francis of Assisi called together his followers and warned them of the coming trials saying:

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1. The time is fast approaching in which there will be great trials and afflictions; perplexities and dissensions, both spiritual and temporal, will abound; the charity of many will grow cold, and the malice of the wicked will increase.

2. The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death.

3. Then scandals will be multiplied, our Order will be divided, and many others will be entirely destroyed, because they will consent to error instead of opposing it.

4. There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God.

5. Then our Rule and manner of life will be violently opposed by some, and terrible trials will come upon us. Those who are found faithful will receive the crown of life; but woe to those who, trusting solely in their Order, shall fall into tepidity, for they will not be able to support the temptations permitted for the proving of the elect.

6. Those who preserve in their fervour and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. but the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head, [Christ] these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy.

7. Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days JESUS CHRIST WILL SEND THEM NOT A TRUE PASTOR, BUT A DESTROYER."

http://thewildvoice.org/to-theologians-apologists/#Saint%20Francis

 

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12. THE PROPHECIES OF BLESSED ANNA-KATARINA EMMERICK (Anne Catherine Emmerich)

THE FALSE ECUMENICAL, HERETICAL CHURCH ESTABLISHED IN ROME

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"I saw also the relationship between two popes … I saw how baleful would be the consequences of this false church. I saw it increase in size; heretics of every kind came into the city of Rome. The local clergy grew lukewarm, and I saw a great darkness…"

"I had another vision of the great tribulation. It seems to me that a concession was demanded from the clergy which could not be granted. I saw many older priests, especially one, who wept bitterly. A few younger ones were also weeping. But others, and the lukewarm among them, readily did what was demanded. It was as if people were splitting into two camps."

"I saw that many pastors allowed themselves to be taken up with ideas that were dangerous to the Church. They were building a great, strange, and extravagant Church. Everyone was to be admitted in it in order to be united and have equal rights: Evangelicals, Catholics, sects of every description. Such was to be the new Church … But God had other designs. "

"I saw again the strange big church that was being built there in Rome. There was nothing holy in it. I saw this just as I saw a movement led by Ecclesiastics to which contributed angels, saints, and other Christians. But there in the strange big church all the work was being done mechanically according to set rules and formulae. Everything was being done according to human reason …I saw all sorts of people, things, doctrines, and opinions. There was something proud, presumptuous, and violent about it, and they seemed very successful. I di not see a single Angel nor a single saint helping in the work. But far away in the background, I saw the seat of the cruel people armed with spears, and I saw a laughing figure which said: "Do build it as solid as you can; we will pull it to the ground. I saw again the new and odd-looking church which they were trying to build. There was nothing holy about it … People were kneading bread in the crypt below … but it would not rise, nor did they receive the body of our Lord, but only bread. Those who were in error, through no fault of their own, and who piously and ardently longed for the Body of Jesus were spiritually consoled, but not by their communion. Then my Guide (Jesus) said: "This is Babel".

"I saw deplorable things: they were gambling, drinking, and talking in church; they were also courting women. All sorts of abominations were perpetrated there. Priests allowed everything and said Mass with much irreverence. I saw that few of them were still godly… All these things caused me much distress."

DEVOUT CATHOLICS AND CLERGY BEING OPPRESSED:

"Then I saw an apparition of the Mother of God, and she said that the tribulation would be very great. She added that people must pray fervently with outstretched arms, be it only long enough to say three Our Fathers. This was the way her Son prayed for them on the Cross. They must rise at twelve at night, and pray in this manner; and they must keep coming to the Church. They must pray above all for the Church of Darkness to leave Rome… These were all good and devout people, and they did not know where help and guidance should be sought. There were no traitors and enemies among them, yet they were afraid of one another…" "I saw more martyrs, not now but in the future … I saw the secret sect relentlessly undermining the great Church. Near them I saw a horrible beast coming up from the sea. All over the world, good and devout people, especially the clergy, were harassed, oppressed, and put into prison … "

"Whole Catholic communities were being oppressed, harassed, confined, and deprived of their freedom. I saw many churches closed down, great miseries everywhere, wars and bloodshed. A wild and ignorant mob took violent action. But it did not last long… "

http://thewildvoice.org/to-theologians-apologists/#Emmerick

 

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13. "IF LAWS DON'T LEAD PEOPLE TO JESUS, THEY ARE OBSOLETE" pope says

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By Carol Glatz
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- God's laws are meant to lead all people to Christ and his glory, and if they do not, then they are obsolete, Pope Francis said in a morning homily.

In fact, the scholars of the law in Jesus' day were so wrapped up in doctrine as an end in itself, they were unable to see that Jesus was leading people down a new and surprising path toward his glory, the pope said Oct. 13 during his morning Mass in the Domus Sanctae Marthae, where he lives.

Jesus did "strange things," like "walk with sinners, eat with tax collectors" -- things the scholars of the law "did not like; doctrine was in danger, that doctrine of the law" that they and the "theologians had created over the centuries," he said, according to Vatican Radio.

The scholars were safeguarding the law "out of love, to be faithful to God," the pope said, but "they were closed up right there," and forgot all the ways God has acted in history.

"They forgot that God is the God of the law, but is also the God of surprises," he said.

"God is always new; he never denies himself, he never says that what he had said is wrong, but he always surprises us," the pope said.

The scholars of the law had forgotten how many times God surprised his people, like when he freed them from slavery in Egypt, he said. They were too wrapped up in their perfect system of laws -- "a masterpiece" where everyone knew exactly what he or she was supposed to do; "it was all settled. And they felt very secure there," he said.

They couldn't see beyond "this system made with lots of good will," and they could not read the "signs of the times," the pope said.

They couldn't see that what Jesus was doing was a sign indicating "that the time was ripe," he said. This is why in the day's Gospel reading (Lk 11:29-32) Jesus said, "This generation is an evil generation," because it sought the wrong kind of sign, the pope said.

The scholars of the law also forgot that the people of God are a people on a journey, "and when you journey, you always find new things, things you never knew before," he said. But the journey, like the law, is not an end in itself; they are a path, "a pedagogy," toward "the ultimate manifestation of the Lord. Life is a journey toward the fullness of Jesus Christ, when he will come again."

The law teaches the way to Christ, and "if the law does not lead to Jesus Christ," he said, "and if it doesn't get us closer to Jesus Christ, it is dead."

Pope Francis asked people to reflect, "Am I attached to my things, my ideas. Am I closed?"

"Am I at a standstill or am I a person on a journey? Do I believe in Jesus Christ, in what Jesus did," dying for humanity's sins and rising again? he asked.

"Am I able to understand the signs of the times and be faithful to the voice of the Lord that is manifested in them?" he asked.

Pope Francis urged people to pray to be able to walk "toward maturity, toward the manifestation of the glory of the Lord" and to have a heart "that loves the law, because the law is God's."

But may people also be able to "love God's surprises and to know that this holy law is not an end in itself," he said.

(http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1404223.htm)

Question from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. Is this what the Church teaches? God's laws can become obsolete? Or rather are God's Laws eternal and no man may change them or what they mean?

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14. VATICAN PROPOSES 'STUNNING' SHIFT ON GAYS, LESBIANS

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Vatican proposes 'stunning' shift on gays, lesbians
By Delia Gallagher, CNN

ROME (CNN) – Using strikingly open language, a new Vatican report says the church should welcome and appreciate gays, and offers a solution for divorced and remarried Catholics who want to receive Communion.

At a press conference on Monday to present the report, Cardinal Louis Antonio Tagle of the Philippines said Catholic clergy meeting here have largely focused on the impact of poverty, war and immigration on families.

But the newly proposed language on gays and civil marriages represents a "pastoral earthquake," said one veteran Vatican journalist.

"Regarding homosexuals, it went so far as to pose the question whether the church could accept and value their sexual orientation without compromising Catholic doctrine," said John Thavis, a former Rome bureau chief for Catholic News Service.

The Rev. James Martin, an author and Jesuit priest, called the report's language on gays and lesbians "revolutionary."

"This is a stunning change in the way that the Catholic Church speaks about gay people."

"The synod said that gay people have 'gifts and talents to offer the Christian community.' This is something that even a few years ago would have been unthinkable," Martin added.

The Catholic Catechism calls homosexual acts "intrinsically disordered" and calls on gays and lesbians to live in chastity. Under Pope Benedict XVI, the church had tried to purge men with "deep-seated homosexual tendencies" from the priesthood.

But Pope Francis, while hewing to Catholic teaching, has signaled a gentler tone, famously saying in 2013 "Who am I to judge?" gays and lesbians.

The report released on Monday, a summary of a week of closed-door discussions of nearly 200 bishops, cardinals and priests, together with Pope Francis, continues that trend. No doctrinal changes have been proposed, however.

The discussions continue this week and a final report will be issued at the end of the week.

The goal of this meeting, officially called the Extraordinary Synod of Bishops on the Family, is to present working proposals for a larger meeting to be held next October 2015.

Here's a summary of where the church may be heading on hot-button issues.

Gays and lesbians

The report firmly re-states the Catholic Church's position that marriage is between a man and a woman and therefore, "unions between people of the same sex cannot be considered on the same footing as matrimony between a man and a woman."

However it notes that, there are examples of good gay relationships "in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of partners."

The report states:

"Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community. Are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?"

The report adds that the church should pay "special attention to the children who live with couples of the same sex, emphasizing that the needs and rights of the little ones must always be given priority."

Finally, the report laments any outside pressure from "international bodies" that make "regulations inspired by gender ideology" a prerequisite of financial aid.

Communion

On the hotly debated question of Communion for divorced and remarried Catholics, the synod's report offers a solution of the "penitential path" or a period of reflection and penance which would allow the partners in a second marriage to receive communion.

This solution, it says, must not be a "general possibility" but one which could be applied in certain cases. It would be up to the local bishop to make the decision.

The document states that this was only one possible solution and that the problem requires further study.

Annulments

"The speeding up of the procedure" of granting annulments was requested by many, according to the report. Various ways to make annulments "more accessible and flexible" were suggested by the Synod.

Contraception

The synod discussions re-iterated the church's "appropriate teaching regarding natural methods" of birth control.

Citing economic factors which sometimes contribute to the decision not to have children, the synod nonetheless states that "being open to life is an intrinsic requirement of married love."

Cohabitation and civil marriage

The synod discussions emphasized the "positive reality" of civil weddings and cohabitation which, while not the ideal of Christian marriage, nonetheless contain "constructive elements."

Many couples who choose to live together, according to the synod, do so for economic reasons.

"Simple cohabitation is often a choice inspired by a general attitude, which is opposed to institutions and definitive undertakings, but also while waiting for a secure existence (a steady job and income)."

"In other countries common-law marriages are very numerous…because getting married is a luxury, so that material poverty encourages people to live in common-law marriages."

In these cases, the synod says, "The church is called on to be the house of the Fathers, with doors always wide open…where there is a place for everyone, with all their problems."

(CNN's Daniel Burke contributed to this report.) (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/10/13/vatican-proposes-stunning-shift-on-gays-lesbians)

Question from Casey to Holy Priests:

1. The Maria Divine Mercy messages indicate that the Catholic Church will accept the abomination of same-sex "marriages". It is specifically in the messages. Is Francis headed toward upholding Church Teaching and defending what the definition of marriage is, OR RATHER is he sparking debate that will lead to "acceptance" of all people's "unions"?

2. The report also indicates the following:

"Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?"

Good Holy Catholic Priests... are we to "accept and value" the sexual orientation which is an abomination in the eyes of God? Is this further proof that we are headed to an apostasy in the Church where the Church will adopt such practices?

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CASEY'S CONCLUSION

Francis can be the nicest guy in the world and the point to this page is not to personally attack him but rather to question his intentions and actions in light of the fact that these reports above are not in alignment with what the Church teaches. As you can see above, we have a number of serious red flags above to question whether or not we are headed for apostasy in the Catholic Church. Assuredly if changes are made to the consecration of the Holy Eucharist, Church Doctrine or the definition of marriage by this pope, then no matter what side of the fence you are, that will create apostasy within the Catholic Church. And while most people may think that apostasy means that people are going to leave the Catholic Church, we all need to recognize that apostasy can be as simple as the leaders of the Church making changes to what Christ taught and that by default will create an apostasy where those that are faithful and loyal to Christ will be excommunicated and removed from the Church. So apostasy doesn't have to be people leaving, but rather it could very well be people being pushed out as well.

I like to use the analogy that the Catholic Church is a bus traveling down the correct road that Christ laid down. In Daniel 12 we see that bus gets hijacked and driven off of the road that Christ laid down. At that point the faithful in Christ will no longer have a bus to ride upon but rather will be pushed off the bus and will have to walk the true road that Christ laid down.

We've had pope's in the past make bad decisions. The question now is whether or not Francis is about change or Tradition. If Tradition, then great. But the signs above do not suggest such a trend.

With great love and respect for our Holy Priests,

Casey

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